new Coros Apex 2 Pro Review – Apex Pro – best yet from Coros

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Made with high-quality materials and packed full of sport and smart features, the Coros Apex 2 & Apex 2 Pro models on review here today definitely warrant a serious look if you are committed to your sports but still want a good-looking watch to wear for the rest of the day. Apex 2 Pro boasts refined looks and mimics the workings of the rotating crown and touchscreen used by the Apple Watch.

Let’s start off with a summary review of the Apex 2 Pro with more details afterwards on accuracy and comparisons of these Coros watches with the Apple Watch and Garmin Venu. It’s worth pointing out that Coros tends to announce new features and new watches separately from each other. Thus today is mostly a review of the improved hardware on the Coros Apex 2 with mentions of recent features from earlier this year.

Like Apple, and less like Garmin, Coros future-proof their watches in the sense that new features work on all previous models where possible, so there’s no compelling reason to upgrade but there are good reasons to switch from another brand and this is a great first-time sports watch too.

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Verdict: ⭐⭐⭐⭐ - Apex 2 Pro is an impressive, high quality sports watch. With a better interface and more nuanced features it would rival Garmin.
  • Price
  • Apparent Accuracy
  • Build Quality & Design
  • Features, Including App
  • Openness & Compatability
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Summary - Coros Apex 2 Pro Review

Wow, this is a nice piece of sporting kit.

Coros Apex 2 Pro Review

If a titanium-based case and sapphire glass are your thing then you’ll probably also love the state-of-the-art GPS and HR sensors squirrelled away inside Apex 2. The GPS chip on the Pro is the latest multi-band/multifrequency offering from Airoha and the OHR sensor looks suspiciously similar to the one on the Apple Watch. If you almost bought the original Apex model, you’ll be glad you waited, as this time around you get touch control on a larger display without an increase in overall size. As usual (!) Coros almost doubles the ridiculously long GPS battery life of old now at 75 hours…that should be enough. More than enough!

Also snuck in is considerably more storage space (32Gb, Pro) for onboard maps and that bodes well for the future with Coros who will probably expand the music abilities to include streaming in the coming year.

The Coros partner app has more details about recent workouts, access to training plans, route syncing and a nice one-page summary of your physiology/fitness. The app could be significantly expanded but, to an extent, Coros handles that with its free online Training Hub for deeper analyses, training plans and physiology insights in EVO Lab.

The look and feel of both the app and watch screens seem dated to me and lack detailed richness beneath the headline numbers and charts. Thus a committed, techy athlete coming from Garmin will soon have to make compromises ranging from a lack of ANT+ sensor support to a lack of a 3rd party app ecosystem. That said, a similarly committed techy athlete coming from another watch ecosystem, like Samsung or Apple, will probably be blown away by what Coros DOES include. Like all these…

  • Action Camera Control
  • Activity Alerts For cadence, distance, pace, heart rate, power metrics
  • Altitude Mode Regular evaluation of SpO2 and fitness
  • Basic/Advanced Interval Training
  • EvoLab Recovery, fatigue, training load, race predictor, VO2max, threshold zones
  • Pre-planned Workouts
  • Running Power From The Wrist
  • Swipe to scroll data pages during training
  • Training Plans
  • Underwater Heart Rate
  • Virtual Run

Pros

  • Broad range of features
  • Awesome battery life
  • Very well made
  • Very good accuracy on the Pro model

Cons

  • No ANT+ support
  • No contactless payments
  • Legacy music support (2022)
  • No AMOLED screen option
  • No watch apps
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What’s new with Coros Apex 2 PRO and Apex 2?

Compared to the previous Apex models, the new Coros Apex 2 Pro and Apex Pro on review here today are bigger, and faster, with more featured hardware including better battery life. In detail, it’s all of this

  • Bluetooth 5.0 music streaming support and support for MP3.
  • BLE sensor support is added and ANT+ support removed
  • Increased screen size on Apex 2 Pro from 1.2″ to 1.3″ and from 240x240px to 260x260px
  • Significant battery life boosts
    • The Pro model boosts full GPS-recording time from 40 hours to 75 hours
    • The non-Pro model now has 45 hours of GPS time from 25 hours (42mm)/35 hours (46mm)
  • 4g extra weight on the Pro. Also, 4g when comparing the non-Pro model to the older 42mm model
  • New GPS chipset with all satellites mode.
    • Dual frequency/Multiband on Pro only
  • New Optical Heart Rate Sensor adds ECG and HRV
    • The non-Pro model adds a pulse oximeter for SpO2

Coros Apex 2 Pro, Apex 2 Maps, Routes and navigation

  • Global Offline Landscape and Topographical Maps added with
    • Touchscreen pan
    • Digital dial zoom
  • Route elevation profile
  • GPS coordinates & Distance to destination
  • Storm Alert

Coros Apex 2 Pro, Apex 2 Maps,

  • WiFi Support added
  • Apex 2 (non-Pro) only available as a 43mm case, previously there were 42mm and 46mm models
  • Non-pro gets a touchscreen, Pro model still has one
  • The bezel remains Titanium but is now coated for extra durability. The back cover is changed from aluminium to titanium
  • Silicone staps replaced with nylon
  • Reduced waterproofing from WR10 (100m) to WR5 (50m)
  • Extra storage 32Gb on Pro, 8Gb non-pro
  • Apex non-Pro now has 3 buttons (2 previously)
  • Increased prices – the older models had price cuts and the new models essentially reverted to the original launch prices for the previous models. Ostensibly it’s +$100 for the Pro and +$50 for the non-Pro.

Support for all recent and new features including EffortPace, Coros EVO Lab and Training Hub.

Coros – A Potted History & brief look at the future

Coros has progressed significantly from smart bike helmets to producing high-end sports & adventure watches that offer sometimes compelling alternatives to both Garmin and Apple.

The original Coros Pace (2018) was a plastic, lightweight multi-sports watch. Unremarkable but perfectly fine and in many ways along similar lines to the Garmin Forerunner 235/735XT. Later the same year, we saw the original Apex which very much set the stage for a watch that would compete against both Garmin and Apple in the sense that it had more elegant, rounded looks but still a good set of sports features.

Mid-2019 saw yet another new watch, this time called the Vertix. Coros Vertix was also well-made and this time around the clear target was the Garmin Fenix adventure watch market. Then later in the same year, we saw a Pro version of the Apex.

After all that effort, Coros focused on adding new features for another year. Coros very much tries, where possible, to bring out new features to work on every watch.

Bring on August 2020 as the start to the next iteration of Coros’ products, starting out with the Pace 2. In my mind, and I think DC Rainmaker’s too, Pace 2 changed the fortunes of Coros. This one sells by the bucket load perhaps because it’s super lightweight, relatively cheap and packed full of features like the unique Track Run Mode. At least it was unique at the time!

Coros Apex 2 Pro review track run

We had to wait a further year for Vertix 2 which seemed to go down especially well with the climbing crowd but the big battery life of all Coros watches seemed to endear the brand to Ultra-like athletes too. Although Coros watches aren’t necessarily cheap they are durable, and they often offer good value when you compare the materials used by competitor brands.

Coros avoids branching out too much into accessories and so far, only has produced a running footpod and a recent second iteration of that.

Unlike its sporty competitors, Coros moved as quickly as it could to support both maps and structured training plans/workouts. Thus it has all the main sporty feature boxes ticked at the highest level. However, it lacks detailed sports features and it might choose to improve further with smart features – we see music support added in 2022 and should see music streaming and a revamped app in 2023. I suspect LTE and contactless payments are not in Coros’ future plans.

The success of Coros seems to rely on these key themes to distinguish itself from Apple and Garmin.

  • Quality materials
  • Digital crown and button interface
  • Big battery lives
  • Highish pricing
  • The best company at playing rapid feature catch-up with Garmin

 

Coros Apex 2 and 2 Pro Accuracy

Generally, I’ve been happy with the heart rate from both Apex watches although neither is perfect. Both watches have the same sensor and the lighter non-Pro model should perform more accurately due to its lower weight. However, over several tests, it isn’t as good for some reason. I don’t know why.

Here are some examples. The first chart shows how the non-Pro model just fails slightly to keep up with the Pro model and then the next 2 charts show where the Pro model has a wobbly moment or two, finishing off with a great effort on the 4th test.

 

Generally speaking, I’m a bad candidate for optical HR so the results here are good for me.

Turning to the elevation, I have one meaningful example of that from a long ride. There don’t seem to be any issues here other than the need for initial calibration.

 

 

 

Finally, there is the GPS accuracy and this is where I had some fantastic results and some downright weird ones.

Let’s start with a link to my standard 10-mile running test over a route that I’ve put every GPS watch (ever!) through its paces. Then this link points to a spreadsheet where you can see all results and this link compares the tracks of Apex 2 and 2 Pro to the Garmin Epix 2 which gave one of the best-ever tracks. And I’ll just summarise by saying that Apex 2 Pro scored a magnificent 85% whereas the Apex 2 non-Pro scored a below-average 65%, Epix 2 has the best-ever score at 87% and that’s effectively the same as what the Pro scored.

In a test running around a few suburban blocks, Apex 2 Pro was excellent (Apex 2 wasn’t!). Then through the highish buildings of Kingston City Centre both the Forerunner 955 and Apex 2 Pro weren’t quite as good as the Apple Watch…but not far off.

Here are numerous other snapshots of tracks across a variety of different reception conditions and Apex 2 Pro pretty much nails it most of the time whereas Apex 2 sometimes nails it and, err, then sometimes REALLY doesn’t! Apex 2 is not multifrequency but that should not explain the differences and it should be a lot better. Maybe it’s the aerial design or just something that needs a tweak on the software side of things.

Summary: Apex 2 Pro has market-leading GPS accuracy

 

DeepDive EffortPace

Last month, Coros introduced a new running pod and at the same time announced a new metric which they call EffortPace. EffortPace offers Coros a partial replacement for running power although they will continue to support Stryd.

At launch, EffortPace is simply a renamed grade-adjusted pace.

In the months following the launch, it will be progressively enhanced to incorporate the effects of other environmental factors on pace. However, this is essentially the same as how running power works but the clear benefit of EffortPace is that most runners instinctively understand pace or speed more than power. Thus the data is presented in a format that they can work with. If their plan tells them to run at 5:00/km for 20 minutes but the last 10 minutes of that is uphill then the runner always targets EffortPace of 5:00/km rather than reverting to heart rate or  ‘running a bit slower‘ on the uphill bit.

Heads Up: Coros continues to support Stryd but is no longer developing the power metric. Coros still supports the calculation of running power from the wrist but all its future product development in this area will be focussed on extending the EffortPace measure.

Coros Pod 2 on laces

Coros plans to introduce other factors into EffortPace as it moves forwards. Thus athlete weight, ground conditions, temperature, air pressure and so on will all be added to adjust your actual GPS/Pod pace to what it should be on hard, level ground on a windless, sea-level day.

 

Deep Dive HRV/ECG

The new HRV test requires you to hold the digital crown during the 1-minute recording and I assume it performs a 1-lead ECG to get the HRV information. This is a lesser-used method and of no extra value when looking at rMSSD and readiness metrics but it might add interesting abilities further down the line. Obviously, it’s more of a faff to use than a simple automatically repeated optical HRV reading.

However, the next thing I saw was that Coros displayed my HRV Index as “43 Stress Level is Medium”…this doesn’t seem right. The algorithm can have no idea what a medium level is for me without a baseline established by a few weeks of readings rather than the 3 days it had at the time. Still, if the Coros algorithm is otherwise correct it should sort itself out soon enough.

 

Deep Dive Battery

Apex 2 Pro has superior battery life. For example, the 75 hours of per-second, GPS-recording compares favourably to 57 hours on the Garmin Fenix 7. Should you feel the need to compare to an Apple Watch then don’t be fooled by Apple’s marketing, when Apple talk about a 60-hour battery life for the Watch Ultra in Expedition Mode they are talking about taking a single HR/GPS reading every 2 or 3 minutes…NOT every second.

Battery Performance APEX 2 APEX 2 Pro
Standard Full GPS 45 hours 75 hours
All Systems On 28 hours 45 hours
Dual Frequency + All systems n/a 25 hours
Daily Use / ‘Smartwatch’ mode 17 days 30 days
Charging time < 2h < 2h

Coros Apex 2 Pro Review, Apex 2 battery life multi frequency band

Perhaps the one area where Garmin wins here is with its relatively new SatIQ mode which only turns on battery-eating dual-frequency mode when accuracy levels drop. This particular feature would be worth adding to the Apex 2 Pro as GPS accuracy is generally pretty good even without dual frequency. And if you look at the table above you can surmise that dual-frequency mode doubles the battery consumption so only occasionally and automatically enabling the highest level of precision would effectively give near-maximum accuracy for over 40 hours in many scenarios.

Deep Dive Music

With lots of onboard storage and WiFi, Apex’s music feature is ‘streaming ready’ but for now can only play MP3 files you copy manually to the watch from your computer. I quite like that but 99.5% of you probably want Spotify!

I had some issues with the stability of the speaker connection for the Pro model but the non-Pro model worked fine through headphones and desktop BLE speakers.

Coros Apex 2 review music

Apex didn’t seem to display album art and had rudimentary music player controls but the sound quality is good.

So, overall it’s very much a Music 101 feature from Coros. But the first steps by Coros are usually quickly followed by more meaty sets of features. Expect those in 2023.

Coros Apex 2 Pro Review, Apex 2 music

Coros Apex 2 and Apex 2 Pro versus Garmin and Apple

Perhaps Apex’s most direct competitor would be Garmin Vivoactive/Venu whereas Vertix 2 competes with Fenix 7 and Pace 2 with the Forerunner 255.

With a Fenix 7 (47mm) coming in at $699, the Apex 2 Pro is significantly cheaper at $499 and with a superior case and screen. But the Garmin Venu 2 Plus comes in at $449 with LTE and a high-res screen. Apex 2 Pro does tick many of the same high-level boxes as Garmin – structured workouts, maps, music, physiology, running dynamics, support for many types of sensors & running power, basic workout analyses and so on. However, if you’re looking for rarely-used featurettes then the Fenix 7 will have pretty much all of them, the Venu 2 Plus might have them and the Apex 2 Pro possibly won’t. That’s fine for most of you and I suspect that you already know if you are likely to need unusual features or not.

To compare with an Apple Watch 8 you would need to compare to the stainless steel/LTE edition or the new Watch Ultra, these come in at $699 and $799 respectively. Apex 2 Pro has the same or better materials as these Apple Watches and the Apex 2 Pro has significantly more sport-focussed features and massively superior battery life but Apple Watches have an unrivalled app ecosystem behind them and there will be a Watch app somewhere for that niche way you want to use it, it’s just finding it that’s the problem. That said, Apex 2 Pro still lacks LTE, lacks payments, and lacks detailed smartphone integration with calendars, calls, FindMy and many other Apple features. Oh and not to forget that the Apple screens are vibrantly beautiful whereas those on Coros Apex and Garmin Fenix are not.

So those are the broad choices you face.

Ask yourself, do you have an iPhone? do you want a pretty 24×7 watch that you can wear for all occasions including sleep? or are you really in need of a sports or adventure watch for occasional usage? Maybe you like the idea of a more refined aesthetic and that’s where Coros comes in, providing you like the look without compromising too much on sports features.

 

Coros Apex 2 comparison to Apex 2 Pro and earlier models

There are significant differences inside Apex 2. However, as athletes, what we notice going forwards will be the addition of map/navigation, music and removal of ANT+

 

Coros Apex, Apex Pro, Apex 2 Pro, Apex 2

 

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Apex, Apex Pro, Apex 2 Pro, Apex 2

 

Model: APEX 2 & 2 Pro
Case Size 43×42.8×12.8mm (Pro 46.1×46.5×14.0mm)
Display Size 1.2″ (Pro is 1.3″)
Display Resolution 240x240px (pro is 260x260px)
Display Type Touch Screen Always-On Memory LCD
Screen Material Sapphire Glass
Bezel Material Grade 5 Titanium w/PVD Coating
Back Cover Material Titanium Alloy
Watch Band Quick Fit Band
Band Material Nylon
Weight with Nylon Band 42g (Pro 53g)
Wireless Connection Bluetooth 5.0 Dual Mode, Wi-Fi
Accessory Connection Bluetooth BLE
Memory 8 GB
Satellite Chipset All-Satellite GNSS Chipset (Pro adds dual frequency)
Sensors Optical Pulse Oximeter, Optical Heart Rate Sensor, Electrocardiogram Sensor (Heart Rate Variability/HRV), Barometric Altimeter, Accelerometer, Compass, Gyroscope, Thermometer,
Wear Detection Sensor
Water Resistance 5 ATM
Working Temperature -22°F to 122°F (-30 to 50)
Storage Temperature -22°F to 140°F (-30 to 60)
Map/Navigation Support Global Offline Landscape and Topographical Maps, Touchscreen and Digital Dial-enabled Breadcrumb Navigation. Checkpoint Back to Start
Elevation Profile, Distance to Destination
GPS Coordinates, Storm Alert
Music Support Internal Storage and Bluetooth Streaming for Offline Content
Music Format MP3
Supported Workouts Run, Indoor Run, Trail Run, Track Run, Hike, Mountain Climb, Bike, Indoor Bike, Pool Swim, Open Water, Triathlon, Gym Cardio, GPS Cardio, Ski, Snowboard, Cross-country Ski, Ski Touring, Multisport, Strength, Training, Speed surfing, Windsurfing, Whitewater, Flatwater, Rowing, Indoor Rower, Jump Rope, Walk

 

Coros Apex 2 PRO Review – Thoughts & Opinion

The main take out from this review is that the Coros Apex 2 Pro and Apex 2 are both market-leading watches in almost every physical respect. However, the app and watch menus need some polish and the super-impressive range of Coros features need to be beefed out with more niche capabilities and nuances to cover everyone’s needs.

Let’s not forget that Coros rapidly innovates and amasses new features at an impressive rate to the point where it is now probably in second place behind Garmin by some measures.

Coros has already done a decent job with its online Training Hub, its physiology features (EVO Lab) and many other advanced aspects of athletic training like Track Run mode, BLE sport sensor support and structured workouts. Its smart features are also pretty good compared to other sports watches with music, streaming music (2023), maps and navigation. However, sports watches like Garmin and Coros will never have the deeply integrated smart features on offer with Apple Watch – that said Garmin has tinkered with LTE and does offer somewhat limited contactless payments, but Coros won’t match either of those for several years.

What will impress me most is a good revamp of the Coros app (2023, coming!) and hopefully a revamp of the aesthetics of the watch menus which work well despite their looks.

Coros is the company to watch and the Apex 2 watches are both good ones to buy.

 

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Price, Discount & Availability

The $499 price for Apex 2 Pro compares well to the $699 price tag of the Fenix 7 but less well to the $449 price tag of the Venu 2 Plus. It’s a clearer comparison to Apple Watch8/Ultra where Coros Apex 2 and Apex 2 Pro are cheaper and with more sports features

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19 thoughts on “new Coros Apex 2 Pro Review – Apex Pro – best yet from Coros

  1. i don’t agree with lack of OLED being major flaw… i have epix and yes its great screen, but… with navigation on it consumes 2.6x times more battery than 955…
    For me now: lifestyle sport watch with OLED it’s ok, but more real sport watch U wear 24/7 is better with “classic” screen. But that’s just my opinion… i had fenix 7 sapphire solar -> changed to epix sapphire, and reviewed 955 solar.

    1. Agree. OLED is a fad just to prettify. Adds more troubles than it solves problems, plus no one has a long term idea on how burnin will affect it

      1. It OLEDs will burn eventually… and it will be much more faster than classic screen would malfunction

    2. hi
      yeah it’s not a technical ‘falw’ per se. more of a marketing flaw by not meeting the needs of a significant market segment. coros now has the battery life to ‘waste’ on a great screen.

    3. I would disagree. I have the Fenix 7 and Epix and use them both regularly. The battery on the Epix isn’t compromised at all for the vast majority of the population. I charge it once a week despite regular exercise use. I’m not doing full Ironman or ultra running, but then those are extremely niche sports for which the target market is measured in hundreds globally.
      The flip side of this, is that while running, climbing, cycling etc. my Epix is orders of magnitude more readable. A quick glance shows me what I need, for instance the blue bar running down in workout mode, or my HR/Power/whatever. The Fenix is fine, but it definitely takes longer to interpret, and that time absolutely will affect performance and distract from the activity.
      No way are these screens a fad or marketing, they are one of the best changes in sports watches in recent times and are certainly here to stay. I do hope Garmin choose to make a Fenix 7 or more probably a 9xx model available for the niche players, but I’d be shocked if Epix doesn’t become the flagship going forwards with all of the focus. Realistically the Fenix could be dropped in the next generation as 9xx (being lighter) serves the niche better anyway.

      1. Ironmen atheltes must be in the tens of thousands but that’s still niche, as you say, in the grand scheme of things.
        i agree (re readability) but i suspect the main benefit is that they enable 24×7 wearing from a ‘looks good’ point of view. this then gives all the physiology stats a chance to be right.
        i too think epix will be the flagship outdoor adventure watch going forwards at the expense of fenix.
        i think we will also see a 265 and 965 AMOLED version of 255 and 955 (in part because I’ve published pictures of the 265 here on this site a few months ago 😉 )

      2. Disagree, have both Epix and Tactix 7. Not sure about what exercise you do or your precise settings, but with an always-on display and a stock watch face, my Epix lasts no more than 6-7 days without any workouts, and with 6-8 hours of exercises per week (4-5 hours of GPS, OHR, and music) it lasts no more than 3-4 days tops. Yes, it’s still several times longer than any smartwatch and is absolutely amazing given Garmin all training features and accuracy, but charging quickly becomes a hassle. I had to pull my old 945 out of the drawer several times when I didn’t realize Epix wouldn’t last through a longer workout and didn’t charge beforehand. Hence, Tactix…

        Same goes for the screen visibility: it’s fantastic in dim light. But during summer days with all that bright light outdoors? It takes Epix 1-2 sec to crank up brightness enough for you to be able to see anything. Otherwise, it’s just a blank screen. Worse still, it requires an active gesture to do that. With MIPS, I don’t have to even move my arm. The screen is instantly readable at pretty much any angle and looks every bit as good.

        Last but not least, if you run when dark (not pitch black but dark enough you barely see the path), that bright AMOLED screen becomes a liability. Unlike MIPS that can be dimmed enough not to mess with your night vision. Now that the days are shorter and I often finish my runs after dark, that’s another flaw.

        I love my Epix, it’s truly a marvelous watch. But most of the time, I no longer train with it.

      3. I would disagree with you. But I don’t use any blue bar for HR/power or what ever. I just have a field with my HR and I know for every kind of workout if that HR is good or not. Amoled doesn’t change that a bit.

        Sure, an amoled screen does look nicer, and current amoled screens are readable enough in direct sunlight and battery life on garmins isn’t that dramatic (when the watch is new!!!).

        But on the other hand, it doesn’t make any new features possible but does make the watch more expensive.

  2. The video they have of Killian blasting through the forest and the racing up a craggy mountain with Emily Forsberg is the coolest marketing video I have seen from a sports tech company.

    1. Yes looks great on a big screen, thanks for mention it. I’m just wondering who stayed at home to babysit the Jornet kids. 🙂

  3. Thanks for the review. I had wanted to buy the base Apex 2 (I had the Apex 42mm before). But, have been totally put off by the multiple online reviews appearing on its mediocre GPS accuracy. The Apex 2 pro would be just too big for my very thin wrists so that’s out. I must admit for £415 I’m really disappointed (and I’ve always been pro-Coros).

    1. depends on how the reviews were done.
      eg very very few watch reviewers will take into account the effects of saying you wear the watch on the left wrist and then wearing it on the right wrist (because the watch you actually use is on your left wrist and that is your regular watch!). this sort of setting could affect any positional algorithms that take into account position based on accelerometer readings.

      apex 1 46mm was pretty good, 42mm less so. same with these new Apex models, the bigger of the two is better for GPS accuracy

  4. Yes, it got maps, but no, it doesn’t do navigation (tbt alerts). I think I prefer the breadcrumb of my fr 935 which does tbt. (Well, except that it can only do 50 tbt alerts per route, for some stupid reason)

    The occasional hickups with gps tracking and ohr, I can live with.

    But then there is price. The pro compared to a fenix might be right, but I don’t want an fenix. I compare it to a 955. Then a pro is quite expensive in Europe.

    The one thing I have’t heard is software quality. The fr 955 has the usual low garmin software quality (if I read the garmin forum). Don’t now how the Coros software quality is.

    1. I thought it was 250 turn points per route? But either way it is a ridiculous limitation that makes no sense on a watch that gets 3-5 days of activity tracking time. Surely Garmin knows that one can have more than 250 turns in a few days of trail. I mean even in 20km of trail you can easily exceed the limits.

      I think everyone has bugs. Garmin has a lot of features and a lot of uses which makes it easy for the community to find issues. Coros has less of both. The early f7 firmware was particularly rough but it has been solid for me since at least June and the current beta is both solid and packed with new features.

      Coros definitely does some things right. They are concentrating mostly on the meat and potatoes of endurance sport training features and range. They have a no-legacy platform which is easier to understand than Garmin which has an enormous surface of complex features, knobs and dials that are intimidating.

      I have a friend with an original Coros Apex and the sent him a brand new replacement in Zimbabwe for free and didn’t ask for the old one back because of a battery recall. That is customer service and he is a loyal Coros customer for life.

    2. coros make a big play on the quality of the materials used and the price premium that justifies.
      of course, materials aren’t important for some people..that’s cool. but i give the comparison as an explainer. garmin obviously wins as they have the volumes to support multiple models that are the same under the hood but with different hoods

  5. Hi, Is that Apex 2 still lag in current pace ? I had apex pro , apex42 which both model
    very lag in current pace. Also in basic GPS mode Did you see any GPS improve over older model
    like apex or apex pro ? thanks ( I have garmin 745 & 945 lte as an option for my small wrist )

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